|Nikos and his shiny dad in|
the ABC studios
The topic was national identity, ANZAC, and the arguments that still simmer and boil over.
You can listen here.
After the conversation, Nikos and I tripped to the National Gallery of Victoria, and had a chat about a number of paintings and sculptures.
'Two Old Men Disputing'. In particular, I admire the combination of passion, concentration and generosity.
The old man facing us is clearly committed to this conversation; to making his arguments, as his finger firmly points at the page. Yet look at the gentleness in his eyes; the patience and respect.
It's an ideal, perhaps old-fashioned, of how the best arguments look.